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What about Cartoons Makes People Mad? An Interview with Signe Wilkinson

Signe Wilkinson, the editorial cartoonist for the Philadelphia Daily News and author of "One Nation, Under Surveillance" (available at Lulu), is a veteran of the cartoon wars. Her November 2005 cartoon critiquing black-on-black violence in Philadelphia was denounced by Philly's top cop and garnered the newspaper weeks of letters.

You need to know that Philadelphia has a rising homicide rate and 83 percent of the victims are young African Americans,” she explains. “I have done dozens of cartoons decrying the violence, the guns, the doofus do-nothing legislators and the rap culture. I needed traction and got it. The initial outrage warped into black readers (and talk show hosts) defending me and saying that yes, indeed, that this was black-on-black crime that couldn't all be pinned on the ‘system.’

In this interview, the cartoonist discusses the most recent, violent battle in the war triggered by the cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten.

Steven Heller: In light of the Danish cartoons about Muhammad and the surrounding furor, do you believe these cartoons should have been published in the first place?

Signe Wilkinson
: Yes. The editors meant to be provocative, but they had no way of knowing it was going to set off the war of the worlds. Furthermore, I believe the European papers should print the Muslim cartoons denying the holocaust and mocking Jews. Then, Europeans will have a full and frank view of the imagery that fuels some of the thinking in the Middle East. I've seen some of those cartoons, and they aren't pretty.

Heller
: I’ve seen some too, and they remind me of the vilification of the Jews by the Nazis in Der Stürmer (the infamous anti-Semitic weekly), as well as cartoons that have run on white supremacist papers and websites in the United States. When we open the doors to free speech, how do we prevent hatred and violence from pouring in?

Wilkinson
: I wouldn’t hire a holocaust denier as my staff cartoonist, but when an Iranian paper starts a contest in response to the Danish controversy and asks cartoonists to draw about how the holocaust didn’t exist, I’d reprint a couple of the ensuing cartoons with an explanation and not on the main editorial page. When the Philadelphia Inquirer reprinted one of the Danish cartoons, it was relatively small, on an inside page with explanation of why they were doing it. It was not in any way endorsing the cartoon. In response to some of my statements on this controversy, I’ve had some holocaust deniers email me. I suggest they send their wise and well-reasoned comments to our letters editor, and generally we don’t hear from them again. If we did, we would run their letters (edited for spelling and length) just as we run all the letters vilifying me for my one-sided, idiotic, hateful drawings—if you can call them drawings, they’re so badly penned.

Heller
: Some cynics, myself included, believe that the days when editorial cartoons moved mountains have come to an end. This event proves that the cartoon is not dead, but many have been killed over it. Is this simply a blip—an unintended consequence—given the currents in cartooning today?

Wilkinson
: It was a blip that's changed the world. I am no expert in Danish/Muslim affairs, but it seems to me that if it hadn't been cartooning, it would have been something else. In Holland, it was a filmmaker. In India it was Salman Rushdie, a writer. It wasn't the medium, it was the message.

Heller: While we'd like it to be, I would argue that freedom of speech is not absolute. There are circumstances where unbridled freedom can be injurious (i.e., the old canard of yelling “fire” in a theater). Restricting freedom can lead to breaks in an already fragile dam, but don't cartoonists have certain responsibilities too?

Wilkinson: Responsible cartoonists? There's a concept. You're ultimately suggesting that it's the cartoonists' responsibility to bridle their own freedom. I thought it was the editor's job to bridle our freedom. Cartoonists are here to say what others can't or won't. American cartoonists at major newspapers generally aren't anywhere near the line you're describing. Your readers may not be familiar with American cartoonists' work because the New York Times barely runs them and almost never runs any with real passion. Times readers should be forgiven for thinking that cartoonists just draw punch-lines appropriate for Jay Leno. Perhaps this is why some American editors are so shocked about the Danish cartoons. Those cartoons weren't just cute punch lines.

Heller
: Many American newspapers did not reprint these cartoons, fearing they would trigger further insult. Didn’t these editors have a point? (After all, the images were easily seen online.)

Wilkinson
: The question facing editors in the United States was not about American cartoonists but about whether to reprint the Danish cartoons. It was an outrage that American citizens were being told a story, but being forbidden from seeing the cartoons that caused the problems.

“It wasn't the medium, it was the message.”

If a paper decides they won't run them out of respect for Muslim readers' sensibilities, they must then follow the Vatican's injunction to never offend the beliefs of the faithful of any faith. Catholics would be absolutely justified to protest that the Times, for example, is perfectly happy to run Chris Ofili's canvas of the Madonna with elephant dung--something they feel is deeply offensive, but won't run a couple of dumb cartoons.

Lastly, I urge you to look up some of the bitterly anti-Catholic immigrant cartoons of everybody's favorite American cartoonist, Thomas Nast. Decide for yourself whether you would publish those cartoons that were run big and bold in the mainstream New York press 150-some years ago, then decide whether we'd have been better or worse for it. I could easily make an argument against running them, saying that those cartoons probably contributed to prejudice among native Protestant Americans and a bunker mentality among Catholics that kept them from becoming a full part of America for many decades. But our history has been to run them and other well-drawn, bitter, prejudiced images. And those cartoons were brilliantly drawn. 

Heller
: Nast’s cartoons were brilliantly inflammatory to be sure, and in hindsight they are classic examples of acerbic satire. But in his day, there was little sensitivity in an American culture built on growing fear of immigrants and the power they were garnering. Today we live in more “sensitive” times. So are there limitations? And how far, would you say, can a cartoonist go to express an opinion?

Wilkinson
: “Acerbic satire!!!” Those cartoons would be called intolerable hate speech today, and they would never have seen the light of day. And, can’t you make the case that Danish culture suffers from a “growing fear of immigrants and the power they were garnering?” It was OK in America then. But not OK for Danes now to wonder whether their freedoms would be clipped by the newcomers.

Heller
: But that was the mid-nineteenth century, and this is the twenty-first–the age of greater enlightenment and all that–but I grant your point. So what about limitations?

Wilkinson: There are no limitations for cartoonists; there are limitations on what various publications are willing to print. I have an ongoing relationship with my readers, which to me means that I don't take them for granted, and I don't insult their intelligence by avoiding certain topics. My standard is this: If any group of people, whether political, ethnic, or religious wants the government to do something that will affect my life (laws, taxes, editorial freedom, whatever), that group has wandered into the political sphere and should be treated as any other political operative.

Heller
: What about aesthetic concerns? I've seen the Danish cartoons, and those that were directly about Muhammad were little more than stereotypical cartoon depiction of a very charged issue. In fact, they simplified and generalized the notion that all Muslims are terrorists, thus fanning greater flames of resentment. How should cartoons be edited so they retain the integrity of the cartoonist while maintaining intelligence?

Wilkinson
: Cartoons are not New York Times opinion essays. We don't know what other cartoons any of the villainous Danish cartoonists have drawn that might have been sympathetic to the Muslims in their midst. I've done cartoons critical of radical Muslims and I've done cartoons critical of America's vast ignorance of all things Muslim. If you saw only one of my cartoons in the former category, you'd think I was just another bumpkin, reactionary, anti-immigrant, intolerant, Islamaphobe. That would be so unfair because I am a misguided reactionary on so many other issues as well. As for aesthetics, if they'd been more felicitously drawn, would they have been any less offensive? If those cartoons had come in front of the Association of American Cartoonists, we would have flagged the bomb-turban one for being a cliché. It's, like, been sooo done already. They might as well have used Pinocchio. I thought some of the others weren't bad, though.

Heller
: Would they have been any less offensive if they had better conceptual and visual quality? No. But they might have been more thought provoking. I know we can’t always choose our battles (or wars, as Rumsfield would say), and my implication that quality (or craft) should be a standard of free speech is ridiculous. But the cultural editor Flemming Rose’s commission to interpret Muhammed left the door wide open to flagrant abuse of charged symbols, and as you note, to clichés–the hobgoblin of the cartoonist. Was this the best battle, battleground, and soldiers to fight the war from freedom of speech?

Wilkinson
: To quote the brilliant Mr. Heller, “We can’t always choose our battles.” When I was president of the Association of American Cartoonists, we were asked to submit an amicus brief on behalf of Larry Flynt, whose well-researched and always-balanced publication, Hustler magazine, had run a nasty little cartoon making fun of Jerry Falwell’s mother. Falwell sued. There was no question in my mind that we had to come to the aid of the poor little pornographer—which we did. He won the case, which establishes a clear defense of cartooning. The Supremes basically said that any idiot should be able to see that it’s a cartoon. It’s not fact. It’s satire. On the other point? you are such an editor. You are always worrying about controlling the content of the cartoons. Yes the editor opened the door, but the point he was making was that the door needed to be opened. The reaction proved his point that the European press was being intimidated into not saying what was on peoples’ minds. If I were an editor at one of the nation’s premier daily newspapers, I’d worry less about cartoons in a distant country and pay more attention to keeping biased and ill-sourced reporting off my front pages.

Heller
: This entire discussion raises the larger issue of press freedoms in the United States. You've noted that cartoonists are loosing a once respected independent foothold. Why is this happening? What factors contribute to newspapers, like the LA Times firing its editorial cartoonist and not replacing him?

Wilkinson: Let's see, could corporate profits have anything to do with it? No, certainly not, but several of my colleagues who have lost their jobs recently have said it was nothing personal—strictly cost savings. If I fall over dead this afternoon, I am fairly sure I would not be replaced.

Heller
: I know the argument that corporations and news media are too cozy these days. But are there other perceived fears of the power structure (or the populace) towards acerbic cartoons? Hey the taboo-busting Simpsons have been popular for over a dozen years.

Wilkinson
: My daughter was sent home from public kindergarten for wearing a Simpsons t-shirt. So you can see that I’m just as insensitive a parent as I am a cartoonist. Newspapers are priggish and they are dying as people move to where they can find unbridled satire—the internet, Jon Stewart, the Simpsons and the like. Americans say they want family-friendly venues, which newspapers mostly are. They just don’t want to read or pay for those newspapers. In the past there were many newspapers so any one of them could be wildly partisan and bitterly satirical of the other side. With only one newspaper in most towns, there really is only one side. Press monopoly was a brilliant strategy for a while, but corporate newspapering is managing to kill itself off.

Heller
: Have you been censored recently? Do you censor (or edit) yourself?

Wilkinson
: As noted above, I do censor myself in so far as I just don't do certain kinds of cartoons for the Philadelphia Daily News. I do gardening cartoons for gardening magazines, rowing cartoons for a rowing newsletter, and in the Daily News, I stick to issues that are covered by the Daily News. The Danish cartoon controversy was in the Daily News so I drew about it. Several of my (extremely insightful and brilliant) cartoons on the subject did not see print. But I argued that if we didn't use an image of Mohammed, we would lose all rights to use any image of any revered figure. I thought long and hard before doing one that expressed my view that if there is a god or gods, he/she/it/they would find any visual description of him/her/themselves humorous in its abject inability to capture the divine. The Daily News ran my cartoon last week, and so far we have received one letter to the editor. My suspicion is that people don't mind if a caricature is nice to their group, they just mind if it's negative. If those Danish cartoons had been positive images of Mohammed, none of this trumped-up fury over depicting the prophet would have happened.

Heller
: In the final analysis, should cartoonists be given greater leeway than other journalists?

Wilkinson
: Yes. But we do need editors to correct our spelling.

About the Author: Steven Heller, co-chair of MFA Designer As Author at School of Visual Arts, is the author of Merz to Emigre and Beyond: Avant Garde Magazine Design of the Twentieth Century (Phaidon Press), The Education of a Comics Artist co-edited with Michael Dooley (Allworth Press), The Education of a Graphic Designer, Second Edition and The Education of an Art Director (with Veronique Vienne) (Allworth Press).

  1. link to this comment by Jason Occhipinti Tue Feb 21, 2006

    Gentlemen, a very good discussion indeed....

    I feel that even in todays 'sensitive' world, it would be a terrible thing to censor the press. There have been many publications and political cartoons that have been offensive to people/groups. That's the beauty...they can bring attention to issues, and say more with one image than can be said in an entire editorial...

    This country, and this world are becoming too P-C for its own good. Everyone is going to be offended by something. Unlike many/most graphic designers (and I do hate to make generalities), I happen to be of the conservative ideology. Whenever someone makes an anti-Bush cartoon, you don't see me torching buildings...it's all about respect for others opinions, and ideas.

    I think the people who need to exercise restraint aren't the cartoonists, but the people intent on violence...

  2. link to this comment by Ahmad Ktaech Wed Feb 22, 2006

    Like many/most designers (I do hate to make generalizations) I happen to be of radical ideology whose key messages are rooted in equal opportunity and anti-racism. Not to make this response a discussion of radical/conservative ideologies, I would like to comment on the Danish cartoons and the interview with respect to equal opportunity and anti-racism while at the same time drawing into example Steven’s “Exploiting Stereotypes: When Bad Is Not Good.”

    I feel like I must start (in response to possible forthcoming responses) by saying that freedom of speech is paramount and the catalyst for development in all realms of society (political, literary, design, human, etc?). Regardless of what side of the ideology debate you side on, this is something that we all can agree to, right?

    As an expert on Danish/Immigrant society, I can tell you that Danish society has shown immense racist tendencies and with the current situation of the world that favors racism/hatred/intolerance (regardless of how you would like to term it) towards Arabs, I cannot but help look at the cartoons as yet another incident of inciting racist actions.

    This feeling is heavily tied to the fact that the context of the cartoons was not academic, artistic or cultural - it was a newspaper editorial cartoon intended for public readership. I am making this distinction because I have heard many people (the interviewer included) equating these cartoons to the Salman Rushdie affair, which it isn’t. It is not surprising that even Salman had something negative to say about the cartoons. And by the way, Salman was not from India but from Iran – clarification purposes.

    As the intention was public dissemination to a public that fosters anti-Arab sentiments (not only does Danish society have a history of anti-Arab sentiments, but Europe as a whole has been struggling in dealing with its Arab population – think of France and Germany), is it not safe to say that cartoons like this reinforces stereotypes on all fronts?

    When I first saw the cartoons, two possible scenarios jumped into my mind:

    a. If Arabs were to ignore the cartoon, the general non-Arab public would agree to the views expressed, internally if not publicly, resulting in a stronger solidification of preexisting stereotypes.

    b. if Arabs do respond to these cartoons, then it would be a self-fulfilling proclamation that renders the statements made by the cartoonist true: a different version of the “Shock and Awe” mentality that all of us are so familiar with.

    I wonder if Signe Wilkinson have had the opportunity to read previous articles of this newspaper and experience some of the cartoonists’ earlier work and statements. Reading some of their past articles depicts their general attitudes towards Arabs. It is also not surprising that 5 months earlier, a similarly distasteful and borderline pornographic rendition of Christ by the same cartoonist was rejected by the editors as being “too offensive and tasteless.” Is it a mere coincidence that the Muslim cartoons passed whereas the Christian ones were rejected?

    As I mentioned previously, freedom of speech is paramount and I guess this is where the double edge sword comes in to play. When Marcel Khalife (one of the Arab world’s most famous classical musicians) was put on trial in Lebanon for blasphemy, the entire population rallied behind him and fortunately he was acquitted from the charges. Believe it or not a lot of the Arab world also rallied behind Salman Rushdie against the incomprehensible fatwah (or declaration to kill) that was given by his government, the Iranian regime.

    The Danish cartoonist, although some may argue was trying to make a political statement, has actually propagated existing stereotypes and OK’ed internalized racism towards the Arab population.

    The current response to the cartoonist has been unfortunate. My hope was that the Arab journalistic community would:

    a. object to the vilification of an entire population by the artist
    b. make a joint statement that showcases the Arab community's value and fight for freedom of speech (there are plenty of Arab journalist who are in a worse situation than their European counterparts)

    Instead however, what we got was:

    a. Zealots and Islamists trumpeting religious anger and sentiment in the only way that they seem to know – through violence
    b. Entrenching internalized and external racism towards Arabs by Europeans
    c. A Mock of the Arab population (both professional and civic)

    In agreeing with Steven Heller’s previously quoted article, I too found the poster playing on various stereotypes of the black community that has been born and solidified by its counterpart white population. The article depicts my sentiments. To quote from the article:

    “Perhaps I am overly sensitive, even squeamish, when it comes to using racial and ethnic stereotypes in design projects. Yet it strikes me that the current Art Directors Club call for entries is toeing a thin line to make a humorous point. In a desire to tap into popular black culture to make ironic commentary about branding, the piece has slid into an offensive place. Even given the tenuous conceptual connection between the prestigious ADC gold medal, hip-hop’s extravagant bling, and the slogan “Ain’t No Such Thing As Too Much Gold” appearing under a shinny ADC cube, this piece is 14-karat tactlessness.

    Strident satire must often be distasteful and offend. When effective, satire is a finely tuned art that hits a target with accuracy–and intelligence. But who is the target here? The depiction suggests something more dubious–and sinister–than mere comic commentary against the oligarchy of global branding. It plays to a stereotype of hip-hop as nasty, tastelessly extravagant and, ultimately, foolish. “This image is misplaced,” continues Woods, “ I would never associate this type of black man with anything pimped out. It doesn't fit. Therefore when discussing the ‘stereotypical’ image, this depiction, for me, places black men under the same group. We all are pimped out and gold wearing/lovin' guys.”

    I believe that the Danish cartoonist’s controversy and the ADC’s poster share a lot of similarities?similarities that should not necessarily be looked at through the freedom-of-speech lens but through equal opportunity and the racism lens.

  3. link to this comment by Thomas Kerr Sat Feb 25, 2006

    Great interview Steve, the format certainly draws out some important points. Just the same, the corporate approach to graphic satire as it has appeared in print media has been tough to witness over the last decade. The Times itself, which contributed to this graphic culture via the OpEd and bullpen on the ninth floor (now replaced by a bunch of spiffy computer stations), has progressively generated less and less graphic excoriation. An artist like Nast is good for any culture which at all times wants to observe itself and see how it's doing (to borrow from Ed Koch). As conglomerates take over the media, cartoonists are pushed out. A simple count of staff positions at newspapers across the country will verify this. How could this not lead to the most invidious form of censorship-that done by one's self.

    Where is new talent to arise? What acid-tinged line will those, who are to come, follow? More importantly-just who-will be courageous enough to publish them? Perhaps visual satire does lie in the sights of the Simpsons and other animated similarities. Yet I will miss those potent pages, full of original broadsides at deserving targets who shrunk in face of a quill and some ink.

  4. link to this comment by Michael Dooley Sat Feb 25, 2006

    Ahmad Ktaech's "two possible scenarios" regarding Arab reaction to being portrayed as bomb-throwing murderers – ignore or respond – brought to mind that classic bit of parental advice: Better to keep your mouth shut and make people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it.

    Which is more offensive to see in a newspaper: cartoon metaphors or photographic evidence?

    You can read some of my earlier thoughts about "wrongeous indignation" over controversial cartoons here:

    http://voice.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=%5Fgetfullarticle&aid=952935

  5. link to this comment by josh kipps Wed Mar 01, 2006

    sorry but I feel this missing the point completely.

    The cartoon was simply the vehicle of something that stirred up resentment and anger, it could well have been a painting, photo-collage, stick-in-the-dirt-drawing, film, etc...

  6. link to this comment by sam rector Thu Mar 02, 2006

    Josh
    of course it could have been anything. But that's the point. Visual art, written art, cinematic art are all covered under doctrines of free speech. Cartoons carry only part of the load - and are sometimes quite simplistic - but the point is that these scratches on paper triggered such a violent response, which has put the fear of . . . into those who practice these arts. I mean these cartoonists (and whatever else they may be) are threatened with death. So the point is that anyone with a dissenting viewpoint can be targeted, and that is intolerable.

  7. link to this comment by sara Mon Mar 06, 2006

    Ahmed,
    Salman Rushdi was not Iranian. I don't know Where you got that information.

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